A Message I Received from a Friend
This part of the interview I’m transcribing reminded me of you:
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Exactly. That’s exactly what I think. I mean I really do date Madonna as being the end of the avant-garde. I feel like once the local idea could get distributed immediately, I think the local idea that forms an art movement is just not possible. So it seems to me it just winds up being a club. And I guess clubs are kind of fun. But you know, again I can’t help looking at the art world can’t be the answer to the poetry world, but to look at its economy is always interesting. Because of course there’s a crucial difference where they have things they can sell. Which means there’s a marketplace which means there’s a kind of investment in fashion which we don’t have. So it’s sort of like they don’t get all truculent about creating little sets
I’m just now getting to the point after four years of psychoanalysis where I can think about sports again, because for a while I was against that whole part of my past. I just felt really held back as a result. And now I’m really for althletics, I’m all for sports, but I’m still not ready to accept the teams, and I think of clubs and teams of being the same thing. Relationships are all one-on-one, in a way.
Yeah, clubs are for losers. And I admit to being a total loser. But to set something up as if I wasn’t a loser seems the height of loserdom.
I’d rather be an individual loser than a loser in a club.
Right, be a widely applicable loser.
